TIMOTHY EDWARD HALL

TIMOTHY EDWARD HALL (A FRAUD/A COMBAT WANTABEE)

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CLAIMS MACVSOG/SNIPER SERVICE IN VIETNAM . TIM IS VIETNAM VETERAN MAKING A FALSE CLAIM OF SERVICE; HE SHOULD BE SATISFIED BY THE ACTUAL SERVICE HE PERFORMED. HIS FALSE CLAIMS ARE UNACCEPTABLE AND TAKES UPON HIMSELF THE VALOR OF OTHERS, NOT HIS OWN, A THEFT! THE FALSE BULL CRAP HE CLAIMS HE PERFORMED DISTRACT FROM THE REAL THINGS THAT WERE DONE AND ONLY DISCREDITS THE HONOR OF THOSE WHO SERVED IN MACVSOG/SNIPER/AND D TROOP, 3/17^TH CAV. NONE OF THIS IS TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND RETURN THE VALOR BACK TO THOSE WHO WERE IN THE FRONT LINES, IN THE DIRECT FIGHT, FURTHER, NONE OF THIS SHOULD DISTRACT FROM TIM'S ACTUAL SERVICE IN VIETNAM AND TO HIS COUNTRY.

The below was sent to me on 9/23/2016

I was minding my own business, trying to celebrate 40 years with my wife in Bryson City , NC . We rode the Great Smokey Mountain Railroad which is a short trip tourist attraction. During the excursion a “Mountain Man” comes through the train car offering entertainment by telling stories of the mountains. During his little act he mentioned military service in passing.

At the end of the excursion as I stepped off the train I acted (asked) this mountain man, “So did you serve in Vietnam ?”

He got this self important tone worked up and pointed to his Jeep that was parked nearby and said, “See that insignia on that Jeep, that's what I did in Vietnam ." It was a MACV-SOG sticker with a SNIPER scroll arched above it. Then I asked, “Were you CCC, CCS, or CCN?” He stopped walking and looked at me with a puzzled expression. He said, “Huh?” He had no clue what I was asking.

So this guy has a job riding the Great Smokey Mountain Railroad as a mountain man “Story Teller" telling his stories to thousands of tourists every season. He also has a storefront nearby from which he broadcasts a 2 hour Saturday Morning Radio Program entitled "Crossroads." His claim of Vietnam sniper has made it to print. He is also trying to raise money for a museum in Bryson City , NC . "Hall estimates it will cost $2.4 million to renovate the building and build a five-story addition. He hopes to raise the money through donations, grants, benefactors, members and sponsors."

The guy is using his heroic stories to establish a trust base. See links below.

https://www.facebook.com/The-Storytelling-Center-of-the-Southern-Appalachians-at-Bryson-City-269202175432/
http://www.ncstoryguild.org/search-results.php?expID=474
http://www.psalmsofthesouth.com/
http://smokymountainnews.com/news/item/1736-spinning-tales-weaving-dreams-storyteller-hopes-to-preserve-craft-and-wnc-history-under-one-roof

According to official records Timothy Hall served a year in Vietnam aboard the USS Corpus Christi Bay repairing electronic instruments. I thought maybe you would like to be advised.

I PERSONALLY INTERVIEWED TIM VIA TELEPHONE, HE WAS AWARE I WAS MACVSOG, HE IMMEDIATELY CLAIMED HE DID NOT SERVE WITH MACVSOG, BUT DISPLAYED THE MACVSOG STICKER BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD HIM THAT HE SUPPORTED MACVSOG.

On Dec 1, 2016 . I called Tim, left a message telling him that I was a former MACVSOG trooper and the owner/webmaster/editor of the www.macvsog.cc website and I had a report that he was claiming SOG service and I wanted to interview him. Tim called me back. I informed him that I was putting stories about SOG'er on the website, that I was a former member of MACVSOG. I told him that someone had forwarded me a picture of his vehicle bearing a MACVSOG sticker and I was interested in interviewing MACVSOG vets for their stories.

Tim said he was assigned to D Troop, 317th Calvary, part of the 199th Infantry Battalion and he was a 11B40 (infantryman) saying he was not with MACVSOG, someone gave him a list of units his unit supported and MACVSOG was one of them so he put the MACVSOG sticker on his vehicle. Tim explained that he was not a SNIPER as the Army did not have "Snipers" at that time, but was a "Marksman" and was good at shooting and he had been assigned to the Army's Marksmanship Team from 1967 to 1968 when he was assigned to Fort Dix and Fort Stewart When he was in Vietnam, his unit was commanded by a Captain as the unit commander, but the commanders changed so often, like socks, that he could not recall any of their names, in fact, he cannot recall anyone else in the unit by name as there was no structure in the unit, there were no platoons, squad or fire team...there was no formal unit structure as there were in Army units including Special Forces which had A, B, and C teams or MACVSOG, he was just part of a unit that was so loosely constructed that no one knew anyone else and the commander/captain would just determine what he needed for a mission and make a section and put together a team for that mission. Tim would be sent out as an individual on a one man mission or a select group to take care of the problem and that he went out on missions on an almost daily basis. Tim explained he had "Little to a Bunch" of KIA's. Tim claims he had the M14 matched rifle, but didn't like it. But liked and used the 303 British Enfield as his primary weapon as it was good at the range of 1000 to 1500 yards. Again, Tim tells me that there was absolutely no formal unit structure and could not explain how he was picked for missions other than the captain would make the pick…if there were no structure, how did the commander know who he commanded?

FLASE CLAIMS:

-There are two methods of Support, DIRECT and INDIRECT support. Everyone in the armed forces provides indirect support of one form or another to the combat soldier, it is a support that flows through various elements that ultimately benefits the end user. Direct support is provided directly to the end user in the form of support or service. From Tims records, he would have provided indirect support to all units within Vietnam by performance of electrical repairs on equipment that they would eventually use that flowed through various supply channels. His records shows he never provided any form of “DIRECT SUPPORT” to MACVSOG, an end user” in any form.

-In Tim's own words, he was a "Marksman", not a qualified "Expert" in shooting skills. If Tim was knowledgeable in weapons, he would have stated he was qualified as an Expert, the highest qualification, as there is a distinct difference in the terminology. In civilian life or those with limited experience in Army qualifications, the term "Marksman" shooter would seem to be the highest level of skill qualification, but they would be under a wrong assumption. Marksman is a basic qualification that is the lowest qualification given to those who hit the minimum number of targets during qualification

-He was not a 11B40, Infantryman, his records shows he was a Electrical Repairman.

-The Army instituted a Sniper school in Vietnam July 68, 5 months before he arrived in Vietnam .

-His records show no assignment to Fort Stewart and nothing in his military records shows he was ever on the Army Marksmanship Team

-Contrary to Tim’s claim, All units have a formal structure, including D Troop, 3/17 Cav which had a formal structure of squads and platoons, a Squad Leader, Platoon Sergeant, Platoon Leaders, First Sergeant, Executive Officer and Company Commander, an Orderly Room, a mail clerk, a company clerk, a supply sergeant, etc., as it would be totally impossible to function as a unit without structure. How else would he get paid monthly, have his clothing issued, get his weapon, his ammo, his food, have his records processed in and out of country, where to sleep, how to get from point A to point B…all this required a formal structure and anyone who believes this bull shit is totally out of their damn mind!

-A search of Timothy E Hall among the D Troop's roster does not show his name. I sent Tim's interview to Bill Nevius the webmaster of D Troop, 3rd Squadron, 17th Air Cavalry website for his comments regarding the claims of Tim: Mr. Nevius responded: “His story does not correctly describe D Troop, 3/17th Air Cav or its operations. I would ignore him.”

Tim’s military records below, shows he was aboard the USNSC Corpus Christy Bay which was a Floating Helicopter Repair shop under the command of the Army Material Command. Having served a tour with the Army Material Command in Alaska , I can assure you the command would never release one of its highly trained technicians to go on combat duty. The below is a Video of duties/purpose of that ship when in Vietnam . He never saw one day of combat, if he came ashore, it was never for combat.

USNSC Corpus Christy Bay , RVN (The ship's home port was Corpus Christy Bay, Texas before being sent to Vietnam)

Floating Helicopter Repair Shop

http://search.aol.com/aol/video?q=Corpus+Christy+Bay+RVN&s_it=video-ans&sfVid=true&videoId=54014F158C19D65DCF7A54014F158C19D65DCF7A&v_t=keyword_rollover

TIMOTHY'S MILITARY RECORDS FROM THE NATIONAL PERSONNEL RECORD CENTER