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MACV-SOG
Military Assistance Command Vietnam -
Studies and Observation Group
''We held the line. We stopped the falling of the
dominoes,'' ... ''It's not that we lost the war militarily. The fact is, we
as a nation did not make good our commitment to the South Vietnamese.''
See Anti-War's Unintended Consequences
William C. Westmoreland, 1985 @ 173rd Abn Bde Anniversary and
VIETNAM WAR INTERVIEW, COL BUI TIN, COL, NVA & THE ANTIWAR MOVEMENT
MGen Jack
Waggener USA ret wrote:
The Vietnam Redux At last, General Giap has published his memoirs and
confirmed what most Americans knew. The Vietnam war was not lost in Vietnam
-- it was lost at home. It exposes the enormous power of a biased media to
cut out the heart and will of the American public.General Giap was a
brilliant, highly respected leader of the North Vietnam military.The
following quote is from his memoirs currently found in the Vietnam war
memorial in Hanoi: "What we still don't understand is why you Americans
stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us
a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It
was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it,
and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media were
definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we
could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"
TRIBUTE:
You
know, I am constantly reminded of how “worthless” SF troops are.
Starting with General Abrams and his pack at MACV. As an Air Force
E-6 in MACSOG in 1972, I was aware of the following:
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The numbers,
location and strength of each NVA division in
South Vietnam
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What that unit’s
actual designation was in the NVA
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Names and ranks of
the major commanders
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When that division
left
North Vietnam,
approximately how much they lost in the movement south and where
they staged prior to entering South Vietnam
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How many and type
of tanks they had
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When they planned
to attack (April 1, 1972)
All
of this information had been collected mainly by those “worthless” SF
recon teams at CCN, CCC and CCS. Well any way, it must have been
worthless, because General Abrams and his “Staff” choose to entirely
ignore it. I remember the day the attack started and they said, “Oh
my, where did all of these people and equipment come from? We are
totally surprised.” My ASS!!! Thank
God for U.S. Army Special Forces and if I ever have to go to war
again, please Lord let me be surrounded by them.
Don
Williams, SMSgt, USAF Retired' MACVSOG 60, April 24, 2008
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This is the Prayer
of the U.S. Army's Special Forces. This image containing the prayer
was printed on the back of the 5th Special Forces Group's 1999 Christmas
Formal program-CLICK ON THE PICTURE FOR ENLARGEMENT
"Whoever does not have the stomach
for this fight. Let him depart. Give him money to speed his departure,
since we wish not to die in this man's company. Who ever lives past
today and comes home safely will rouse himself every year on this day.
Show his neighbor his scars and tell embellished stories of all their
great feats of battle. These stories will teach his son, and from this
day until the end of the world, we shall be remembered, we few, we band of
brothers for whoever has shed his blood with me shall be my brother, and
those men afraid to go will think themselves, lesser men as they hear of
how we fought and died together.."
Shakespeare, "Henry V"
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Barry Sadler songs.
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Known as a "Get Out Of Jail Free" Identification Card (Charles
White was a Black guy, not a white guy)
Beware:
"...the image of a
SOG "Get Out Of Jail Free Card" or "Walk on Water Card" named to a
White is total bulshit. That style of card was originally purchased
through Soldier of Fortune Magazine in the mid 80's. Even the one
shown in Plaster's pictorial book is post war. The one that you have
shown is a ebay special available for about $10.00. I just hate
seeing people get screwed buying junk.
Respectfully,"
Jason M. Hardy
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John Walton-RIP
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